* 1939 Register labelled as Census - why?
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1939 Register labelled as Census - why?
I've noticed when using AS to create 1939 Register entries, that the fact is labelled in the Property Box as a Census. Why is that and can I change it?
Or is it something I'm doing wrong?
Thanks
Or is it something I'm doing wrong?
Thanks
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Re: 1939 Register labelled as Census - why?
You are not doing anything wrong. It is shown as a census because AS uses the census fact type. You can change the display in the facts tab by using Tools > Fact Types > Census > Edit > Advanced and in the Summary Template field enter
{=TextIf(GetDisplayText(%FACT.DATE%,min) = "29 September 1939","National Register","Census")} {place}
Then the facts tab will show National Register for the 1939 ones but Census for everything else.
You can similarly modify the sentence template. Mine is
<para>{individual} was recorded in the {=TextIf(GetDisplayText(%FACT.DATE%,min) = "29 September 1939","National Register","census")} {date} <at {address}> {place}
{=TextIf(GetDisplayText(%FACT.DATE%,min) = "29 September 1939","National Register","Census")} {place}
Then the facts tab will show National Register for the 1939 ones but Census for everything else.
You can similarly modify the sentence template. Mine is
<para>{individual} was recorded in the {=TextIf(GetDisplayText(%FACT.DATE%,min) = "29 September 1939","National Register","census")} {date} <at {address}> {place}
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Re: 1939 Register labelled as Census - why?
Yes, the Knowledge Base article that Brian referred to suggests much the same with slightly different expressions and gives a full explanation of why the use of the standard Census Event is recommended.
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Re: 1939 Register labelled as Census - why?
The 1939 register is really a census in all but name but for a different purpose. A census is an official survey of the population of a country. In AS by default the 1939 register template uses the census fact but you can change this in the template (Tools->Census Templates): you could have it create residence fact instead or use a custom fact if you wish.
Lorna's suggestion (or in the Knowledge Base article) is probably the best thing to do if you're happy for it to use a census fact but just want to change the wording.
Lorna's suggestion (or in the Knowledge Base article) is probably the best thing to do if you're happy for it to use a census fact but just want to change the wording.
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Re: 1939 Register labelled as Census - why?
Thanks, Lorna - I edited as below, plus the sentence. Really appreciate the help!
LornaCraig wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024 16:50 You are not doing anything wrong. It is shown as a census because AS uses the census fact type. You can change the display in the facts tab by using Tools > Fact Types > Census > Edit > Advanced and in the Summary Template field enter
{=TextIf(GetDisplayText(%FACT.DATE%,min) = "29 September 1939","National Register","Census")} {place}
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Re: 1939 Register labelled as Census - why?
Thanks - I should have checked the KB *sigh*.
brianlummis wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024 16:33 Maybe this will help Family Historian Census Event for UK 1939 Register
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Re: 1939 Register labelled as Census - why?
I have read it now...Will remember next time to search the KB first.
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Re: 1939 Register labelled as Census - why?
Thanks, Nick - I had noodled around in there, but wasn't quite sure what to do and didn't want to make a mess! For now I've gone with Lorna's suggestion.
NickWalker wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024 17:11 The 1939 register is really a census in all but name but for a different purpose. A census is an official survey of the population of a country. In AS by default the 1939 register template uses the census fact but you can change this in the template (Tools->Census Templates): you could have it create residence fact instead or use a custom fact if you wish.
Lorna's suggestion (or in the Knowledge Base article) is probably the best thing to do if you're happy for it to use a census fact but just want to change the wording.
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Re: 1939 Register labelled as Census - why?
I asked about this before, thank you Lorna for finding the solution, it looks better now.
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Re: 1939 Register labelled as Census - why?
I prefer to call it Electoral Register. I would like to add here that this was used to create the NHS list of names when it was formed in 1948
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Re: 1939 Register labelled as Census - why?
You're free to call it whatever you want, of course, but I would say that 'Electoral Register' is a misnomer as it wasn't used to register people for elections, either when it was created or later. It's name at the National Archives is '1939 Register' although elsewhere it is called '1939 England and Wales Register' as it only included those two locations. As Nick says, it is a census in all but name, and I prefer to treat it and name it as such in my records.
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