*Female ancestors- is there a tool or plug-in to develop a tree?

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Female ancestors- is there a tool or plug-in to develop a tree?

Postby Dagwood » 14 Mar 2019 10:52

Hi, It's a few years since I was last on the forum but seem to recall that some time ago i was able to print a tree for the female lineage of myself and that of my wife.
With upgrades and PC crashes I seem to have lost any reports I once developed and cannot recall if there was a tool to do this or whether i did it manually.
Can anyone advise please?
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Re: Female ancestors- is there a tool or plug-in to develop a tree?

Postby tatewise » 14 Mar 2019 11:47

Welcome back Jim.

Firstly, I suggest you use the Backup and Restore Family Historian Settings Plugin whenever you have made any customisations to Diagrams, Reports, Queries, Fact Sets, Plugins, etc, etc.
Ensure copies of both those Settings backups and your Project backups are saved other than on your PC.
See Knowledge Base > Backup and Recovery for full details.

I imagine your female lineage is not so much a tree as a single column of boxes from you (or your wife) up to the oldest female direct ancestor.
In that case you know the people involved, so use Tools > How Related to choose you and your eldest female direct ancestor, then Display Graphically and Hide Spouses &/or Siblings as required.
Repeat for you wife and her eldest female direct ancestor.
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Re: Female ancestors- is there a tool or plug-in to develop a tree?

Postby Dagwood » 14 Mar 2019 12:52

Many thanks Mike, it's good to get back and start using FH again. Your reply reminds me of how I did it previously and your suggestions re saving alterations and repoprts etc are most helpful.
My thanks again
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Re: Female ancestors- is there a tool or plug-in to develop a tree?

Postby davidf » 14 Mar 2019 16:17

tatewise wrote:I imagine your female lineage is not so much a tree as a single column of boxes from you (or your wife) up to the oldest female direct ancestor.
In that case you know the people involved, so use Tools > How Related to choose you and your eldest female direct ancestor, then Display Graphically and Hide Spouses &/or Siblings as required.
Repeat for you wife and her eldest female direct ancestor.

Is it possible to show your "mtDNA" lineage (or your Y-Chromosome lineage)?

So for mtDNA lineage, you would show
- your mother and all her descendants through purely female relations
- your Grandmother and ....
- Your GG etc.?

I can see how you can do it manually with hiding those who don't fit - but I have for a while been wondering how to do this (or better still on ordinary diagrams being able to show - by box properties? - either mtDNA or Y-chromosome relations to the diagram root).

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Re: Female ancestors- is there a tool or plug-in to develop a tree?

Postby Jane » 14 Mar 2019 17:00

You can use a Query to hide the boxes so you don't need to do it manually. The attached query should handle 15 generations if you need more just duplicate the add exclude lines.

If you want markers on a full tree, the easiest way is probably to set a flag from the Query results.
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Re: Female ancestors- is there a tool or plug-in to develop a tree?

Postby tatewise » 14 Mar 2019 17:02

Take a look at Knowledge Base > Charting Companion that offers a number of DNA charts.
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Re: Female ancestors- is there a tool or plug-in to develop a tree?

Postby Jane » 14 Mar 2019 17:02

The query for Y would be similar, but excluding Females from all additions
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Re: Female ancestors- is there a tool or plug-in to develop a tree?

Postby davidf » 14 Mar 2019 17:57

Some interesting options but I don't see one that does quite what I would like to do.

Context
The (UK) Ministry of Defence (JCCC) is responsible for identifying the remains of (e.g. WW1) soldiers found on the battlefields. Sometimes they can draw up a shortlist of who the soldier might be. They then seek (often "assisted" by genealogists giving them a push) to identify potential relatives who might provide a DNA sample for identification purposes.

When drawing up trees for this purpose you (e.g. for mtDNA) trace up the maternal line (from the suspected casualty) and then back down female cousin lines. You could only pursue female lines, but it is sometimes sensible to pursue male relatives in case you find something in their details that point towards an otherwise missed female (e.g. reference to a female cousin). (This also builds a tree in case you end up falling back on an autosomal test.) Sometimes you take on an existing family tree; either way it would be nice to have the relevant lines highlighted. You can then share a tree and make it open to challenge.

Jane's query can iteratively identify relevant individuals (and could be tuned to exclude adopted children) and then via flags or named lists you can customise the tree.

I suspect that it is inherent within FH that there is no means to iteratively work through a series of considerations - that would in effect be a macro language ?

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Re: Female ancestors- is there a tool or plug-in to develop a tree?

Postby Jane » 14 Mar 2019 22:01

You can if you use a plugin
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Re: Female ancestors- is there a tool or plug-in to develop a tree?

Postby tatewise » 14 Mar 2019 23:48

Yes, FH Plugins provide that macro language capability to iteratively work though considerations to whatever rules you wish and involve user decision making to achieve any desired objectives, providing that the necessary data is accessible to the Plugin either in the Project database or some other machine readable data source.
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Re: Female ancestors- is there a tool or plug-in to develop a tree?

Postby Jane » 15 Mar 2019 12:23

I am currently working on a set of code snippets to return Female, Male direct lines and back tracing which take account of the relationship flags on the Family As Child records.

When finished you will be able to get a result set to save as a Named list or set a flag to use in diagrams or for setting reports etc using in list or has flag functions.
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Re: Female ancestors- is there a tool or plug-in to develop a tree?

Postby davidf » 15 Mar 2019 12:32

Waiting for those code snippets sounds more profitable that learning lua and writing a tree-crawler - an interesting challenge but I have other things I want to do!

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Re: Female ancestors- is there a tool or plug-in to develop a tree?

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