* [Wish List 631] Add titles to citations

[KFN]

I’m rather new to FH and templates, but I’ve been experimenting a lot recently.

Templating in FH7 basically ignores all of the standard GEDCOM tag like Source_Record.PAGE and SOUR.AUTH when using provided templates. So when creating a template (unless you make a custom one) you will not see a PAGE or AUTH GEDCOM tag!

Because I bring a lot of GEDCOM compliant Source_Records and citations to FH7 I am forced to build my own templates (generic templates don’t meet my standards for citations) using mostly GEDCOM tag references but with better citation layout rather than the genetic ones.

[tatewise]

Sorry! The recent discussions with Vyger and now KFN have diverged from the original request and perhaps should be split off into another thread in the Sources, Citations & Repositories forum.

[KFN]

Sorry! The recent discussions with Vyger and now KFN have diverged from the original request and perhaps should be split off into another thread in the Sources, Citations & Repositories forum.

First, my response, like yours, was to correct a misunderstanding presented.

Second, I’m not sure what the OP really needs. I think we need to define terms, based on the way splitters vs lumpers see citation data storage.

[Vyger]

It seems that RootsMagic 7 used the PAGE field but RootsMagic 8 & 9 use the NAME field.
But as explained on Tue 31st Oct 2023 22:57 and agreed by others, NAME is not a standard GEDCOM Citation field and should have an underscore prefix such as _NAME. So RootsMagic 8 & 9 are producing invalid GEDCOM.

Mike, I'm aware _SHAR and _SORT have become like de facto standards but the use of the standard "3 PAGE" by Rootsmagic does confuse me. I believe I did read somewhere it was in Gedcom7 standard but can't point to that.

To be clear Rootsmagic 7, 8 & 9 concatenate the templated data fields into a standard PAGE line, Rootsmagic 8 & 9 in addition add the Citation NAME tag.

For Lumpers especially the Citation Name (Title) bringing about the shared citation concept where one edit updates all is a welcome feature. So regardless of Gedcom support this always had my support.

[Vyger]

Wish List item 631 has been created. Please vote for it to let Calico Pie know if you wish to see this feature introduced.

[KFN]

Mike, I'm aware _SHAR and _SORT have become like de facto standards but the use of the standard "3 PAGE" by Rootsmagic does confuse me. I believe I did read somewhere it was in Gedcom7 standard but can't point to that.

No. The 3 PAGE tag is not just from GEDCOM 7! I’ve seen it in at least v5, and I think it was in v4 as well.

Back to what the OP wants, please!

[Vyger]

Back to what the OP wants, please!

Kevin, thank you and please see the comment previous to yours.

[tatewise]

I thought users were supposed to agree on the wording of a Wish List proposal before it gets created.

The PAGE tag has been a standard GEDCOM citation field for as long as I can remember.