* Working with Tables and Columns
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Working with Tables and Columns
In How to Add Content to the Knowledge Base there is a section on Working with Tables and Columns with a video showing how to activate and use the Genesis Columns Advanced plugin. However, I cannot see any way to achieve that in the Knowledge Base Editor. There is no Plugins or Installed Plugins menu option in the lefthand panel.
That section also says: "The Table tool is self-explanatory, but please remember to size table columns in % to make them responsive." This needs to advise that the Text tab must be used to see the <td style="width: 33.3333%;"> code.
It is very tedious to change a column % on each row as there is no Find & Replace feature that I could find in WordPress.
However, I discovered that setting the % of each column for the first row and deleting all the other % settings works OK.
Is that the best way to set the column % widths? If so, the Working with Tables and Columns needs to say so.
It seems the Plugin Store WordPress editor has similar issues.
That section also says: "The Table tool is self-explanatory, but please remember to size table columns in % to make them responsive." This needs to advise that the Text tab must be used to see the <td style="width: 33.3333%;"> code.
It is very tedious to change a column % on each row as there is no Find & Replace feature that I could find in WordPress.
However, I discovered that setting the % of each column for the first row and deleting all the other % settings works OK.
Is that the best way to set the column % widths? If so, the Working with Tables and Columns needs to say so.
It seems the Plugin Store WordPress editor has similar issues.
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Re: Working with Tables and Columns
1. The Columns plugin is already installed (as you might expect). Ignore the brief installation content of the video and focus on the usage instructions.
2. Poking around on the text tab is unnecessary. Click on the table button and set the cell properties.
2. Poking around on the text tab is unnecessary. Click on the table button and set the cell properties.
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Re: Working with Tables and Columns
- Sorry Helen, I must be going blind, but in the KB editor I cannot see an Insert Columns icon as shown in the video:
- IMO, using the Table > Cell > Table cell properties option is not an intuitive way of sizing columns.
In fact, it does not size columns unless the user has selected an entire column of cells.
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Re: Working with Tables and Columns
Screenshot of your icons please Mike. Should look like this:
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These are my toolbar icons:
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Re: Working with Tables and Columns
Mike
The last update to this plugin removed the ability for editors to have access to the icon. I have done a code change and that icon is now available to you and the other editors.
The last update to this plugin removed the ability for editors to have access to the icon. I have done a code change and that icon is now available to you and the other editors.
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Re: Working with Tables and Columns
Thank you Colin, that has revealed the Insert Columns icon and its features work OK.
However, in Helen's screenshot, there is another icon between the <> Code (Shift+Alt+X) icon and the Insert Columns icon.
It looks like <>▼ so does that indicate another missing feature that Editors should have?
Having got all that sorted out does the KB need an update to the Working with Tables and Columns section to make the Table and Column options clearer?
However, in Helen's screenshot, there is another icon between the <> Code (Shift+Alt+X) icon and the Insert Columns icon.
It looks like <>▼ so does that indicate another missing feature that Editors should have?
Having got all that sorted out does the KB need an update to the Working with Tables and Columns section to make the Table and Column options clearer?
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Re: Working with Tables and Columns
No Mike this is not one for Editors I am the only one who uses this as it allows the running of PHP code on a page.
I will leave Helen to answer your second question.
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Re: Working with Tables and Columns
The documentation re Tables has been updated. I'm not going to duplicate what's in the video for columns.
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Re: Working with Tables and Columns
Thanks, that is clearer.
I wasn't expecting to duplicate what's in the video for columns, but is it worth mentioning that the first part of the video can be skipped because the Insert Columns plugin and its icon are already activated?
At least change the first line to say: "The Insert Columns tool is powerful..." and embed the icon in the text.
And perhaps change the last line to say:
"If you intend to use the Insert Columns tool, you should watch this brief demo to get the best out of it. (Skip the first 40 seconds about activating the plugin as it is already activated in the KB editor.)"
I wasn't expecting to duplicate what's in the video for columns, but is it worth mentioning that the first part of the video can be skipped because the Insert Columns plugin and its icon are already activated?
At least change the first line to say: "The Insert Columns tool is powerful..." and embed the icon in the text.
And perhaps change the last line to say:
"If you intend to use the Insert Columns tool, you should watch this brief demo to get the best out of it. (Skip the first 40 seconds about activating the plugin as it is already activated in the KB editor.)"
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Re: Working with Tables and Columns
Embedding the icon in the text seems superfluous, as it identifies itself if you hover over it, and looks remarkably like the columns icon in other products, e.g. Word.
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Re: Working with Tables and Columns
Maybe I'm being picky, but the icon identifies itself as Insert Columns whereas the Working with Tables and Columns section only says "Columns" in two places. So would "Insert Columns" be better?
In the Knowledge Base Shortcodes and Other Customisation section it says that "it’s clearer to show an icon than it is to simply name it." so why not follow the guide's own advice?
I also think mentioning the plugin is already activated avoids users expecting to activate it and overlooking that the icon is already present.
In the Knowledge Base Shortcodes and Other Customisation section it says that "it’s clearer to show an icon than it is to simply name it." so why not follow the guide's own advice?
I also think mentioning the plugin is already activated avoids users expecting to activate it and overlooking that the icon is already present.
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Re: Working with Tables and Columns
Because I haven't got time to redo the whole page with icons for everything mentioned (for consistency) when the audience for the page is so small. And only an Admin can edit it (because it's a content type we've used for all sorts of architectural/infrastructure purposes, so we don't want no-Admins messing with them).
If you have some spare time, perhaps you could review the very useful review you were doing for V7 compatibility?
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I have every intention of getting back to reviewing V7 compatibility but what with Plugin updates and home commitments I don't have much spare time just now.
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