To upgrade or not?
Posted: 07 May 2009 16:26
I apologise for the length of this post but as v4 is the first release of FH for years and probably the one which contains the greatest changes since v2 then I think it deserves a discussion.
Im never quick to upgrade to a new version of a program but I can usually tell from the information provided by the company and from the comments of other users whether I will want to upgrade at some time. In the case of FHv4 my inclination is not to upgrade because the positive changes seem to be few and outweighed by the negative or neutral changes. However, the information provided seems to be rather sparse and lacking in detail. Janes work on videos and the like is very much appreciated but its really for Calico Pie to provide the proper information for its customers and that doesnt seem to have happened. That said, theres nothing like the impressions of other users to enable one to get a feel for the software so what Im after, during the first couple of weeks after release when the flavour of the new version is still fresh in peoples minds, is the detail of the changes so I can make a decision about whether to stay on v3 - with which Im very happy - and ignore all comments related to v4, or to continue to consider an upgrade to v4 at some possibly distant future time.
A good starting point for a discussion should be the new features information provided by the supplier. http://www.family-historian.co.uk/downl ... in_40.html is rather brief and lacking detail but as its all there is lets use that.
Focus Window
I can see why this has been added because its expected of family history programs and the v3 equivalent of the Property Dialog was always a sub-optimal implementation. I can see me using the Focus Window simply because its there but since Im accustomed to my ways of working with v3 (primarily in the Records window) then the FW isnt a big inducement for me to upgrade.
Property Box
I think everyone would agree that this needed work. The biggest problem was always its small, fixed size and limited number of data fields. The new version sounds really good and I can see this being the thing that might persuade me to upgrade.
Projects
This is the thing that most puts me off upgrading. The many discussions about it recently show that other people too dont understand it and dont see the value of it. Its also probably the biggest new feature that hasnt been fully explained. I positively hate software which tries to commandeer my data and squirrel it away in places of its own choosing. FH has always done this, of course, for example by placing much of the configuration data in the All Users structure thus forcing all users of a computer to have the same settings and then overwriting them during an upgrade (something Ive complained about to Calico Pie before).
If Ive understood correctly, the new projects feature takes my GEDCOM and images and puts them a place called My DocumentsFamily Historian Files. Err, no. These are not Family Historian files; they are my files. I have my own file structure and I want to keep it that way. It doesnt help that the information about what it is in the project isnt published. Clearly the GEDCOM (one, or many?) is there and the images which are attached to it; but what else? There was a suggestion that Text Schemes are there. That makes no sense since the same schemes might be required in other projects. What would be useful here is the detail of the standard file structure and a list of all the files that FH will put there.
Im aware that its said that one doesnt have to use Projects and to an extent that is true, though it can often be difficult to work around an integral feature like this. And there are features which dont work unless you use projects, though other than lazy programming I cant think of a reason why this would be so. After all, Web and CD creation both work in v3 so why force projects on a v4 user to do the same thing?
In summary, using Projects removes the ability to manage ones own files and not using Projects disables certain functionality. Id love to see an explanation of why v4 does this but in any case this single feature strongly dissuades me from upgrading.
Undo
Yes, useful. But not a reason to upgrade.
How Related
Already exists in a few forms.
Same sex relationships
I have no need for these.
Multimedia enhancements
Many people have said they dont want FH to be an HTML creator; likewise I dont want or need FH to be an image management program. There are plenty of those already available. I also understand that the thumbnails have a significant performance impact. Thanks, but no thanks.
PDF
Already available by a variety of free programs.
Export GEDCOM
This could be useful. The split tree helper is not a tool Ive ever used because its opening dialog is too complex and frightening even to an experienced computer user like me.
Website generation and family tree CDs
Improvements here could be useful but v4 users have reported that theres nothing significant. In any case, these features can no longer be used except within a project.
Charts and diagrams
v3 seems to do all I need in diagrams except make effective use of space. Can anyone add some detail to the vague comments on this item?
Fact Queries
This could be useful. Ive long wanted to be able to report effectively on events and attributes (Reports were supposed to be the solution to this but theyre too restrictive). Again, can anyone expand on the vague description?
Power-user features
This is just marketing-speak. Can anyone say what these features actually are?
Moving on from the listed changes...
I understand that image embedding is no longer allowed. This doesnt bother me as I wouldnt want to embed images anyway, but if its true then this breaks FHs 100% GEDCOM claim. Is it?
Talking of 100% GEDCOM, have the failings in FH which cause it, despite the claims, to be not 100% GEDCOM compliant been fixed? Two things which have long annoyed me are that EVENTS_RECORDED should be a comma-separated list but FH permits only a single value; and ROLE_IN_EVENT should permit any value but FH permits only selection from a limited set of values. Has either of these been fixed in v4?
Every program has bugs. But bugs such as the installer not working, upside down text, and HTML tags visible in output are basic. These should have been discovered during even minimal testing and do not give me confidence in the quality of the product. Even worse, reports of bugs are being met not with a quick patch (except for the installer) but a well look at it when we get around to it. All in all, not very inspiring. Fortunately, being always intentionally slow to upgrade these problems wont affect me as I think it reasonable to expect that theyll be fixed by then.
Lastly, are there any other changes in v4, good or bad, which Ive not listed here?
I know that only I can decide whether or not to upgrade but the views of other users are an essential part of the evaluation. Thanks for any input.
ID:3680
Im never quick to upgrade to a new version of a program but I can usually tell from the information provided by the company and from the comments of other users whether I will want to upgrade at some time. In the case of FHv4 my inclination is not to upgrade because the positive changes seem to be few and outweighed by the negative or neutral changes. However, the information provided seems to be rather sparse and lacking in detail. Janes work on videos and the like is very much appreciated but its really for Calico Pie to provide the proper information for its customers and that doesnt seem to have happened. That said, theres nothing like the impressions of other users to enable one to get a feel for the software so what Im after, during the first couple of weeks after release when the flavour of the new version is still fresh in peoples minds, is the detail of the changes so I can make a decision about whether to stay on v3 - with which Im very happy - and ignore all comments related to v4, or to continue to consider an upgrade to v4 at some possibly distant future time.
A good starting point for a discussion should be the new features information provided by the supplier. http://www.family-historian.co.uk/downl ... in_40.html is rather brief and lacking detail but as its all there is lets use that.
Focus Window
I can see why this has been added because its expected of family history programs and the v3 equivalent of the Property Dialog was always a sub-optimal implementation. I can see me using the Focus Window simply because its there but since Im accustomed to my ways of working with v3 (primarily in the Records window) then the FW isnt a big inducement for me to upgrade.
Property Box
I think everyone would agree that this needed work. The biggest problem was always its small, fixed size and limited number of data fields. The new version sounds really good and I can see this being the thing that might persuade me to upgrade.
Projects
This is the thing that most puts me off upgrading. The many discussions about it recently show that other people too dont understand it and dont see the value of it. Its also probably the biggest new feature that hasnt been fully explained. I positively hate software which tries to commandeer my data and squirrel it away in places of its own choosing. FH has always done this, of course, for example by placing much of the configuration data in the All Users structure thus forcing all users of a computer to have the same settings and then overwriting them during an upgrade (something Ive complained about to Calico Pie before).
If Ive understood correctly, the new projects feature takes my GEDCOM and images and puts them a place called My DocumentsFamily Historian Files. Err, no. These are not Family Historian files; they are my files. I have my own file structure and I want to keep it that way. It doesnt help that the information about what it is in the project isnt published. Clearly the GEDCOM (one, or many?) is there and the images which are attached to it; but what else? There was a suggestion that Text Schemes are there. That makes no sense since the same schemes might be required in other projects. What would be useful here is the detail of the standard file structure and a list of all the files that FH will put there.
Im aware that its said that one doesnt have to use Projects and to an extent that is true, though it can often be difficult to work around an integral feature like this. And there are features which dont work unless you use projects, though other than lazy programming I cant think of a reason why this would be so. After all, Web and CD creation both work in v3 so why force projects on a v4 user to do the same thing?
In summary, using Projects removes the ability to manage ones own files and not using Projects disables certain functionality. Id love to see an explanation of why v4 does this but in any case this single feature strongly dissuades me from upgrading.
Undo
Yes, useful. But not a reason to upgrade.
How Related
Already exists in a few forms.
Same sex relationships
I have no need for these.
Multimedia enhancements
Many people have said they dont want FH to be an HTML creator; likewise I dont want or need FH to be an image management program. There are plenty of those already available. I also understand that the thumbnails have a significant performance impact. Thanks, but no thanks.
Already available by a variety of free programs.
Export GEDCOM
This could be useful. The split tree helper is not a tool Ive ever used because its opening dialog is too complex and frightening even to an experienced computer user like me.
Website generation and family tree CDs
Improvements here could be useful but v4 users have reported that theres nothing significant. In any case, these features can no longer be used except within a project.
Charts and diagrams
v3 seems to do all I need in diagrams except make effective use of space. Can anyone add some detail to the vague comments on this item?
Fact Queries
This could be useful. Ive long wanted to be able to report effectively on events and attributes (Reports were supposed to be the solution to this but theyre too restrictive). Again, can anyone expand on the vague description?
Power-user features
This is just marketing-speak. Can anyone say what these features actually are?
Moving on from the listed changes...
I understand that image embedding is no longer allowed. This doesnt bother me as I wouldnt want to embed images anyway, but if its true then this breaks FHs 100% GEDCOM claim. Is it?
Talking of 100% GEDCOM, have the failings in FH which cause it, despite the claims, to be not 100% GEDCOM compliant been fixed? Two things which have long annoyed me are that EVENTS_RECORDED should be a comma-separated list but FH permits only a single value; and ROLE_IN_EVENT should permit any value but FH permits only selection from a limited set of values. Has either of these been fixed in v4?
Every program has bugs. But bugs such as the installer not working, upside down text, and HTML tags visible in output are basic. These should have been discovered during even minimal testing and do not give me confidence in the quality of the product. Even worse, reports of bugs are being met not with a quick patch (except for the installer) but a well look at it when we get around to it. All in all, not very inspiring. Fortunately, being always intentionally slow to upgrade these problems wont affect me as I think it reasonable to expect that theyll be fixed by then.
Lastly, are there any other changes in v4, good or bad, which Ive not listed here?
I know that only I can decide whether or not to upgrade but the views of other users are an essential part of the evaluation. Thanks for any input.
ID:3680