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Post by Jane » 03 Mar 2018 11:45

I am tinkering with writing an App for my Android to view (and possibly update) Family Historian gedcoms.

It may never happen, but I would appreciate some feedback on the following

1. How important is it to be able to edit data while out, would a simple add notes to records be sufficient, if you could then review the notes against your database when you get home.

2. Media, with the small capacity of devices to store large amounts of media, I was thinking of pushing the media to a "private store" such as a users personal space (eg Dropbox or one drive etc) which would mean media would not be available offline, but could be accessed when internet is available? I could add a small thumbnail of "faces", but all other media would be launched from the stored location.

Are there any must have features you would like to see?
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Post by Valkrider » 03 Mar 2018 12:01

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For me the notes option would be fine.

The media option also is a great idea.

A nice to have would be the option to print reports and charts to a local airprinter. Also a gedcom export would be nice to have too.

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Post by jimlad68 » 03 Mar 2018 15:10

I very much believe in creating a clone rather than syncing, so for me the important thing would be a good FH/Gedcom viewer.

So for me your 'note' idea sounds good, however what might be more flexible (and already written) would be 'pushing?' the note to say Google keep (which can also record images etc), especially if the keep note included some FH data (name, record id, etc). This can then automatically sync to cloud and hence PC for copy/paste etc.

I have not tried any, but a search for GEDCOM on Google Play, lists a few apps.
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Post by AdrianBruce » 03 Mar 2018 16:08

Usually if I'm out of the house doing serious research, I'm just using printed paper or Evernote. I doubt very much whether I'd ever want to do "proper" updating of the GEDCOM file out of the house - if I did, it's probably in the evening, on the laptop, using FH via Dropbox.

Where I do use non-FH access outside, it tends to be in a more opportunistic manner, such as in a graveyard asking, "Is that one of my lot?" For that, GEDCOM access via a viewer with decent Find facility suffices for me - I'm currently on GedStar Pro but since it needs action from me to convert a copy and sync, it's actually an old version of my data....

I guess writing notes that would link up back at base would be ample.
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Post by Denis » 03 Mar 2018 16:37

This would be a very welcome app to have - thank you for considering it!

I don't think I'd want to risk modifying the GEDCOM file from my phone, but the "notes" option would be fantastic: ability to store text and photos so that they can be easily incorporated into the FH project later on. I use OneNote a lot for this, and it syncs automatically between Android and Windows.

My FH projects are on OneDrive and are therefore accessible wherever a data connection is available. It's possible to make individual files or whole folders available on your phone offline (and I've done this for the GEDCOM itself), but I suspect a whole FH Media folder would eat too much into a device's limited storage.

I'm currently using GEDexplorer which works quite well in an un-flashy sort of way and is adequate for quickly checking your existing information. The developer kindly added support for OneDrive, so I can now load the GEDCOM file when out and about, without needing to sync it manually beforehand. It doesn't, however, understand a FH project, so is unable to display media. That's where I'm hoping you'll be able to take it a step or two further!

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Post by BillH » 03 Mar 2018 16:38

Jane,

For me a viewer would be fine. I don't update my file on my phone or tablet. The ability to keep notes would be great. I used Family Bee until it quit working on my Samsung tablet. Now I use Gedstar.

I think for me the most important thing would be for it to be able to use the FH .ged file without conversion or having to do any kind of export. Just use the native .ged file. If that were the case I could just use Google Drive and DriveSync to keep the .ged file up to date on my phone and tablet at all times.

A simple graph view and family view (like the focus window) would be needed as well.

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Post by ColinH » 30 Jun 2019 11:12

Jane

I've only just seen this post and I would very much welcome Android app. I came to FH from Roots Magic and I really miss having access from my smartphone.

It would be useful to be able to edit on the move. Whenever I go to family events, I currently have to print the whole thing out, and it's not always convenient or possible to unroll the chart along the length of someone's garden or hallway. It also uses a lot of paper and ink.

The most important feature would be automatic and, as near as possible, real time synchronisation. I would be happy to use Dropbox for this. In fact, I already store my FH data files there, which enables me to use both my desktop and laptop with the same data file. I did try some of the gedcom viewers on my smartphone some time back but synchronisation was too big an issue and I stopped doing it.

As I said, Roots Magic has an app and I think My Heritage and maybe others as well have this. So FH is lagging behind a little.

Thanks for considering this; I hope it materialises.

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Post by ColeValleyGirl » 30 Jun 2019 11:21

Not a solution for everyone, but to view my data on my phone I use my website.

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Post by tatewise » 30 Jun 2019 13:46

Wish List Ref 478 Family Historian Version for Android and also for iPad/iPhone and Apple Mac have existed for over 8 years and are in top 20 of Wish List items, but don't hold your breath.
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Post by E Wilcock » 01 Jul 2019 07:33

I use Gedstar pro which the designer made free to users when he retired and stopped supporting it.

Gedstar pro is read only and cannot be edited. But it does not require internet access and provides full sources, notes and I think it would include images, if I chose.

Gedstar Pro must be installed on one's computer and also on one's phone.

The steps by which I put a fh tree onto my android are as follows.

1. On a Windows computer with fh - Export a Gedcom using Mike's plug in, Gedcom selecting the export designed for Gedstar.
2. Use Gedstar to select that gedcom, convert it (takes a bit of time on a large tree) and send the converted tree to drop box. Gedstar offers this option and my drop box has a designated folder for Gedstar.
3. My android phone using wi fi or data locates the Gedstar tree in drop box and if you tap it, that opens the Gedstar app to view it. Once on the phone one does not need an internet connection to view the Gedstar file.

Gedstar allows one to have multiple trees on one's phone - so one can choose which one to take with one.
My problem is that I use multiple trees and may not have all of them with me all the time.

Any new App would need to cut down the time taken - because Gedstar Pro is pretty good. Since it is free, Jane, I suggest you download it and have a look.

I make any notes using Evernote - Jane I am a little dubious about making major edits to an fh Project on one's phone as that would require exporting the file back into fh - But an additional dated note might be useful.

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Post by tatewise » 01 Jul 2019 09:51

Similar to what Evelyn has described, the Export Gedcom File Plugin also supports Roots Magic and Heredis and MyHeritage plus their Android apps, all of which have free versions, although some have size restrictions.
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