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Windows 10 upgrade questions

Postby TimM » 26 Jun 2016 09:11

The up and coming deadline for free Window 10 upgrade is fast approaching. I’ve been putting off the potential problems of the transition, but must make a decision, and would appreciate some clarification.
I have Windows 7 on a desk-top PC connected to a router and use MS Office 2010 & Live Mail 2011. I don’t use wireless, although some of the family do.

I guess there are some FHUG members out there who have upgraded their PC from Windows 7 to 10, and can speak from experience and hopefully offer some advice.

My queries are:
1. Once the installation process has started and completed, did anything else have to be done to continue working as before? Ignoring custom settings.
2. Did all the programmes run as before, or did some a) need reinstalling; b) not work; c) need tweaking; d) need to run in compatible mode; or something else?
3. All your files ok?
4. Were you able to connect to the internet straightaway or was some tweaking/configuring involved?
5. Internet security/virus scan software working?
6. If you use mail (Live Mail*) or similar (with your messages on your PC), did that fire up as normal with all your inbox & sent items intact? *I’m very concerned that this works without a hitch!
7. Is a Microsoft account necessary?

Anything else I should be aware of?

I know this question is not directly related to family history, but thought some might be able to provide useful pointers.

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Re: Windows 10 upgrade questions

Postby tatewise » 26 Jun 2016 13:17

Tim, see Knowledge Base > Windows 10 Upgrade Tips.

Those are the tips I use for members of the Computer Club that I run.
Several members, including myself, have recently used them to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, but just because it works OK for many does not guarantee it works OK for everyone. Make sure you have good document backups and know how to reinstall all programs with licences. Even better, create a disk image backup.

To answer some of your queries:
1. Mostly all accounts, programs, and files were as before.
2. One or two programs needed tweaking, and the new Windows apps are misbehaving in some accounts (but I am not keen on using them anyway).
3. All files OK.
4. Internet all OK as per Windows 7.
5. Windows 10 has Windows Defender as a basic level of protection, but I disabled Avast before the upgrade, and enabled after upgrade, and all is OK.
6. Both Windows Live Mail and Microsoft Office Outlook worked as before.
7. Initially your accounts will login exactly as they did in Windows 7 as local accounts. You do not need any Microsoft Accounts, unless you wish to use OneDrive, or the Windows Store, etc, but even then you can login when needed and the Windows account can remain as a local account, just like Windows 7.
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Re: Windows 10 upgrade questions

Postby davidm_uk » 27 Jun 2016 08:48

I use sleep mode quite a lot, and had previously set my W7 system up so that it would only wake up by briefly pressing the power button. After W10 upgrade it seemed to wake itself up within a minute or so, for no apparent reason. Found the solution to that one here:
http://superuser.com/questions/973009/conclusively-stop-wake-timers-from-waking-windows-10-desktop/973029#973029

Also wanted to disable the lock screen (the screen with the beach picture that you have to click to get the login screen). Found the answer to that one here, plus many other useful tips (note that there's a linked page - 15 More Tips & Tricks You Need to Know):
http://windows.wonderhowto.com/how-to/45-tips-tricks-you-need-know-master-windows-10-0163455/

I also use Classic Shell to get my menus looking more like XP (I used this in W7 as well) http://www.classicshell.net/

A bit late for you, but for others reading this, before upgrading to W10 I tidied up my W7 (installed all W7 updates, uninstalled any programs that I knew I didn't want anymore, ran Disk Clean-up) and then saved a disk image to a usb drive. This meant that if the W10 upgrade went pear shaped I could reliably get back to my W7 system (the option in W10 to go back to W7 has not worked properly for quite a lot of people).
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Re: Windows 10 upgrade questions

Postby SRSW » 14 Feb 2017 16:26

I upgraded a laptop from Win 8 (Which I hated as an OS) to Win 10 - No issues at all!

Hope you experience the same
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Re: Windows 10 upgrade questions

Postby TOWYUSK » 12 May 2019 12:37

Having had to buy a new computer I find that I cannot reload my FAMILY HISTORIAN as I started with Series 2 and then purchased upgrades, -- does this mean I have to purchase a new Version 6 in order to access my saved records, or is there a driver anywhere that will do the job
In other words ---help

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Re: Windows 10 upgrade questions

Postby ColeValleyGirl » 12 May 2019 12:53

See Knowledge Base > Family Historian Installation Advice where it explains you only need install your latest purchased V5 to V6 Upgrade that will request your V6 licence key and V5 licence key. If you have lost any of those then see Knowledge Base > Mislaid Licence Details or Software Download for advice.

You should definitely make sure you also read Knowledge Base > Family Historian V5 & V6 Migration Guide to ensure you move everything you need to your new computer.

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Re: Windows 10 upgrade questions

Postby TOWYUSK » 12 May 2019 18:37

Dear Colne Valley girl,

Thank you -- that worked.

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Re: Windows 10 upgrade questions

Postby E Wilcock » 05 Jun 2019 07:48

I upgraded a brand new and simple Lenovo Windows 8 lap top when prompted by a message rolled out from MS. I had almost no data on the lap top. All the software was reinstalled. Everything seemed the same. John Lewis offered to do it for me but I just followed the prompts.

However I use a Sony Vaio desktop with a sort of dual Sony system for browser and touch screen running alongside windows 7, and available as a separate and rapid internet access (tho I dont use it).
MS did not recommend upgrading this computer to Windows 10 and last week after reading that Windows 7 would be discontinued next December, I checked again and could see no prompt to upgrade.

My friend uses Windows 10 with a Windows 7 shell. I dont really understand why a shell is needed as I run Windows 10 on my lap top using the same green desk top with icons as I use in Windows 7. I also seem to be able to install and use Windows 7 and xp software.

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Re: Windows 10 upgrade questions

Postby tatewise » 05 Jun 2019 09:23

Windows 7 Shell ~ Some people like the desktop and start menu style to be more like Windows 7 but that is only a superficial presentation style customisation. It does not turn it into a Windows 7 PC.

Windows applications ~ Yes, most earlier Windows applications will install & run in Windows 10 and there are Compatibility Mode options to assist with that if necessary.

Sony Vaio ~ Some older PC are not Windows 10 compatible and so would not be offered the free upgrade. Anyway, that free offer has now long expired and Windows 10 would now cost you about £100. You could investigate the Windows 10 upgrade option by contacting Sony or a local computer shop. However, a PC of that vintage is living on borrowed time and may need replacing before long anyway.

Windows 7 ~ Strictly speaking this will not be 'discontinued' next December as it has not been commercially available to purchase for several years. Actually from next February 2020 the monthly Windows security updates will cease. Windows 7 will continue working and your anti-malware tools will protect you much as they do now. But over time the security risks will slowly increase.
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Re: Windows 10 upgrade questions

Postby E Wilcock » 05 Jun 2019 13:07

Thank you Mike. For both the explanations. I have Mcafee. So may be will be able to keep this computer and Windows 7 after all. I have always kept my computers for 8 years and never had one fail. This one is only 7 years old. I am particularly fond of it as it has a beautiful and wide screen. I can have a census or certificate image open alongside fh. It was bought as a second TV to watch the UK Olympics on line.

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Re: Windows 10 upgrade questions

Postby tatewise » 05 Jun 2019 13:20

When it comes to replacing that Windows 7 PC with a Windows 10 PC, you may well be able to continue to use that wide screen monitor, the keyboard, the speakers, and your printer with just a brand new bare tower. It largely depends on the connectors. When the time comes, ask here for advice.
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Re: Windows 10 upgrade questions

Postby Mark1834 » 06 Jun 2019 08:56

I needed to replace monitors recently, and went with a single "ultrawide" from LG. It's brilliant - plenty of room to have FH and a source document open side by side without the huge sacrifice in desk real estate required by twin widescreens, or even a laptop with supplementary monitor. Mine is 2 * HDMI input, but there are models around with at least one legacy DVI connector.
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Re: Windows 10 upgrade questions

Postby Jane » 06 Jun 2019 10:57

Mark1834 wrote:I needed to replace monitors recently, and went with a single "ultrawide" from LG.


Oh dear, I just seen a review for the 49" version. I think I am in love, but not with the price. :D
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Re: Windows 10 upgrade questions

Postby ColeValleyGirl » 06 Jun 2019 11:18

I have a 34" Ultrawide monitor and find I can have FH and a second window open and legible side by side -- and even three windows open in columns for some activities. Still pricey though.

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Re: Windows 10 upgrade questions

Postby Mark1834 » 06 Jun 2019 12:21

You don’t have to go too big - my LG is “only” 29”, and I find that plenty big enough. It’s the same as two non-widescreen 17” monitors side by side, and in my experience over the years, 17-19” non-widescreen is about the right size for text-based applications such as FH. If you want to look at very wide tables or charts you can easily use the entire screen area.
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Re: Windows 10 upgrade questions

Postby E Wilcock » 06 Jun 2019 13:08

tatewise wrote:When it comes to replacing that Windows 7 PC with a Windows 10 PC, you may well be able to continue to use that wide screen monitor, the keyboard, the speakers, and your printer with just a brand new bare tower. It largely depends on the connectors. When the time comes, ask here for advice.
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Thanks Mike. I had wondered.
My current screen is 27" measured on the diagonal. It does have an HDM1 input but it not just a monitor, it is an all in one computer. I realise that all in one is not good in terms of computing power, but when we need to move the computer off the table which is also used for large family gatherings it has proved a real blessing.


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