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Problems with narrative reports

Post by Jonvdw » 11 Apr 2019 11:50

Hello,

I am encountering problems with narrative reports :
- Sometimes the Hebrew name of the person is written backwards (written from left to right) but not always though. It is bizarre since, in one paragraph, the name can be written backwards and, in another one, it is written in the right way. I think it has something to do with paragraphs and format? I don't have this problem in charts or while working on the person's profile.
- Sometimes there is too much space between a comma and the rest of the sentence, or between a full stop and the following sentence.

Could anyone tell me how I could fix these problems? Thank you very much!

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Re: Problems with narrative reports

Post by tatewise » 11 Apr 2019 12:42

For general advice see Knowledge Base > Narrative Report Fact Sentence Templates.

In the few experiments I have tried with Hebrew names the characters always appear in the same order.
Is the left/right order associated with particular sentence constructs?
Can you post a screenshot showing examples of the problem. See Knowledge Base > Posting Topics.

Have you reviewed the Sentence Templates that lead to the excessive spacing?
Is it possible that conditional components in < angle brackets > do not include appropriate space characters?
Then when the conditional components are missing the unconditional spaces will still be present.
e.g.
... lived <at {address}> {place} will have two spaces between lived and the place when no address.

... lived< at {address}> {place} will fix that problem by putting first space inside < >

If unsure then please copy & paste into your reply the Sentence Templates that lead to excessive spaces.
Also post a screenshot showing examples of the problem.
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Re: Problems with narrative reports

Post by Jonvdw » 11 Apr 2019 18:05

Thank you very much for your reply and help!
I will look at the links and advice you gave me to solve the problem with the excessive spacing.

I have attached a screen capture of the typical problem I encounter with Hebrew in narrative reports (the red lines point to the names written backwards).
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Re: Problems with narrative reports

Post by tatewise » 11 Apr 2019 19:08

I have experimented some more and get similar inconsistent backward Hebrew names in Narrative Reports.
The same people in different sentences are sometimes forwards and sometimes backwards.

Also most types of report have backward Hebrew names in photo captions.

My Family Group Sheets have backward Hebrew names in record Note titles.
My Outline Reports have backward Hebrew names in some sentences but in different ways to Narrative Reports.

I suggest you report all those problems to Calico Pie as advised in Knowledge Base > Problem Reporting.
Attach a similar screenshot as here.
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Re: Problems with narrative reports

Post by Jonvdw » 11 Apr 2019 21:28

Thank you very much! I will contact Calico Pie, I hope FH will find a solution.

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Re: Problems with narrative reports

Post by Jonvdw » 12 Apr 2019 22:10

I contacted them and they will investigate the problem in order to get a fix in the next release of the software.
Calico Pie found out that, by zooming in/out the narrative report, the Hebrew characters would be written in the right way. It worked but, despite that, when I saved the report as a PDF file, all the Hebrew names in the PDF were written backwards...
Could you tell me if you found any temporary solution to solve this problem? I can't imagine not being able to make narrative reports from my research :(

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Re: Problems with narrative reports

Post by Jane » 13 Apr 2019 08:09

Prior to V6 you could not use extended characters, so what people used to do was add a media image with the name in non ascii script, would that work for you in the meantime?
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Re: Problems with narrative reports

Post by Jonvdw » 13 Apr 2019 09:31

Thank you for your suggestion!
I will use that solution if I can't figure out something else. It is a real headache though, as I have about 300 names that will need to be modified. I feel frustrated because I found this morning a post from 2017 with the same problem, it was reported to FH and nothing has been done since then apparently.

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Re: Problems with narrative reports

Post by E Wilcock » 13 Apr 2019 10:15

I dont know if you found this thread? hebrew (14853)

Calico Pie replied that they did not handle alphabets that ran from right to left.
I seem to remember that I experimented with Rootsmagic and it was no better.

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