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Re: Recording DNA matches in Family Historian

Postby E Wilcock » 06 Mar 2019 08:13

I'm lost again. I have a fact and a query but What is the Diagram?

I think I also have a slight problem with the query, Jane, in that this is an individual query. Meaning that each DNA match can appear only once.
I am fine with this at the moment as I keep multiple projects. But I already know one DNA match who is descended from couples on two of my trees.
The cousin marriages in both my Jewish and non-Jewish trees means that one finds people descended from two of one's ancestral pairs.

I also think I am doing something wrong in entering the couple ID number. Thank you Mike, I can now find them. As it doesnt seem to work. It works if I put in the two individual IDs.
And is the individual column to enter a single known common Ancestor or does one use it to show which child of the common ancestral couple the Gedmatch person is descended from?

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Re: Recording DNA matches in Family Historian

Postby Jane » 06 Mar 2019 10:49

"The diagram" is any diagram you want to show the Family ID number on. I found it handy to show the Family record it on a diagram so I could find it quickly to add to the GedMatch Fact. You can happily ignore this if you don't want to use it.


I have re-written the Query as a Fact Query so if you have two links to the same person you will see both.

I am not clear when you say the Family Link does not work, you should simply be able to enter the family number and it will then appear the the column on the report.

The "Shared Ancestor" should probably have been called "Connecting Ancestor", the idea came from the DNA Painter site which states

https://dnapainter.com/help/how-to-use

Your common ancestors are your Great-Grandparents. You could label these segments with their names.

Or, since you don't currently have a way of knowing which of these Great-Grandparents was the source of these segments, you might prefer to label them with the name of the furthest-back individual; in this case, your paternal grandfather.


My data for one link looks like
[[
Tested with: Ancestry
Test Site Name: xxxxx36
GedMatch Details
Kit Id: T78123
GedMatch Name:xxxxsat

Links
Shared Ancestor:
Shared Couple: 773
Primary Link: 1
]]
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Re: Recording DNA matches in Family Historian

Postby E Wilcock » 06 Mar 2019 12:11

Jane, thank you for rewriting the query. And to Mike for coaching me in queries in the first place. Made all the difference.

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Re: Recording DNA matches in Family Historian

Postby capnkeith » 06 Mar 2019 17:52

Jane,
When you select Family ID to only appear in spouse boxes, how did you do it? I have done it via Diagram options > Text > and edit the text scheme item for Family ID > Box types and conditions. But cannot get it to display correctly on every occasion, most are ok but sometimes both of the couple have the Family ID in their box and sometimes it is in neither of the couples boxes.

Or did you do it a different way?
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Re: Recording DNA matches in Family Historian

Postby Jane » 06 Mar 2019 19:14

You need to select, spouse box and female ancestors as well
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Re: Recording DNA matches in Family Historian

Postby tatewise » 06 Mar 2019 19:20

The easiest method is to Clone an existing Family item such as Marriage.
That way it will have the same settings as all your Family items (whether only Spouse boxes or anything else).
Then Edit the item to change its name and template, and move up or down.
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Re: Recording DNA matches in Family Historian

Postby tatewise » 07 Mar 2019 11:07

BTW: Knowledge Base > Charting Companion requires a Custom Attribute specifically named DNA Kit with its value set to the Number for each person. Should that influence the Custom Attribute associated with this discussion?
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Re: Recording DNA matches in Family Historian

Postby Jane » 08 Mar 2019 12:06

Personally I would rather keep the ID in the GedMatch fact, if people want to use the Charting companion options, a simple plugin in to populate the "DNA Kit" field from the GedMatch Kit ID would be easy to write.
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Re: Recording DNA matches in Family Historian

Postby E Wilcock » 12 Mar 2019 10:17

Jane - This was supposed to be a thank you post. It all worked brilliantly.
But it has turned into a question about Reporting the data.
Yesterday I discovered the ancestry service Thrulines which suggests how DNA matches might be linked to one's tree. It is sourceless with no surety and sometimes gaps in the suggested lineage. But thanks to your fact and query, I was able to enter the matches and link them.

But this morning I had to type the list of about ten matches and their links into an email.
Is it possible to output the matches from the query into a report? Would you put the Query results into a named list and make a list report?

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Re: Recording DNA matches in Family Historian

Postby Jane » 12 Mar 2019 10:41

Would not just copying the contents of the query work?

Remember you can copy and paste the cells from the query into Excel or save them as a CSV file.

If you select the first column you can create a Named list from it.

It's not possible in a plugin to create a Named List.

You can also save the Result set as a PDF report
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Re: Recording DNA matches in Family Historian

Postby E Wilcock » 12 Mar 2019 11:03

Thanks Jane - I know one cant make a named list directly from a query - only by selecting the names in the result and editing.
But I didnt know much of the rest.

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Re: Recording DNA matches in Family Historian

Postby Jane » 12 Mar 2019 12:01

You can make a Named List by highlighting the cells on a fact query or directly using save named records as Named list where the query is not a fact query, when the Add Row Records to a Named List will be active.

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Re: Recording DNA matches in Family Historian

Postby E Wilcock » 13 Mar 2019 09:14

Thank you Jane - for a kind explanation. I did not phrase my post well.
I am already a great user of named lists in fh, many of them selected via a query.
I hope others who have switched to fh will be encouraged to do the same.


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