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Source types

Post by londonscorpion » 31 Jan 2017 15:44

I have just created a new project in FH version 6, and created a number of census citations. I now find that my diagram expressions (working well in other projects) are not working because my census sources do not have a Source Type (of e.g. Census UK 1941). I cannot find any option to create the Source Types. Can anyone help.

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Re: Source types

Post by LornaCraig » 31 Jan 2017 16:31

In the Records window, Sources tab, click on a Source to open its Property Box. On the Main tab of the Property Box there is a field labelled Type. (If it is not showing you may have to enlarge the width of the Property Box.)
Either enter a new Source type there, or double-click in the field to open the list of existing Source types.
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Post by londonscorpion » 31 Jan 2017 17:20

Many thanks Lorna. Right on the nail.

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Post by johnmorrisoniom » 31 Jan 2017 17:26

If you use AS to enter your data, it should automatically create the census source with the type "Census"

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Post by tatewise » 31 Jan 2017 19:41

Yes, I would recommend you use Knowledge Base > Ancestral Sources to capture all your new Source data for BMD & Census records, because that ensures consistent data entry for such as Source Types and Titles, etc.
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Re: Source types

Post by londonscorpion » 01 Feb 2017 07:31

Thanks for the AS heads up.

Mike, you may remember a long exchange we had some while ago on expressions. In FHv6 I have adopted a naming convention for the Source Records/Type field for census sources that has the format "Census "{Country} {Census year}: e.g. Census UK 1851.

I do use AS and it would be useful to configure the Sources/Source Type field on the Tools/Options/Census settings screen to replicate this. My understanding from the AS Help file is that you can only put in fixed text e.g. Census, which means that I have manually change each census source record created by AS.

If this is not available, what's the chance of getting AS to include this feature.

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Post by tatewise » 01 Feb 2017 10:15

You are correct that AS does not allow the Source Type to be customised with {keywords}.
Post your request in the Ancestral Sources Forum and Nick Walker might oblige.

Checking back in that Using expressions (12570) posting, it seems that the main purpose of that setting is to govern Icons in Diagrams.

With that in mind it would be just as easy for an Expression to test say the Short Title (ABBR) or the Publication Info (PUBL) field instead of or as well as the Source Type (_TYPE) field.
AS has a Template for the Short Title and the Publication Info is derived from the Census Template Reference.

So there are ways of using AS as it is and achieve your objectives, but may need some retrospective adjustments to your Source records.
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Re: Source types

Post by londonscorpion » 01 Feb 2017 11:17

I have over 230 UK censii alone, so updating existing sources, would be a bit of a chore. I think I'll try and persuade Nick. Thanks for the other info on AS.

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Re: Source types

Post by londonscorpion » 01 Feb 2017 11:20

Mike, the expressions technique that you explained in the "Using expressions (12570)" posting is working like a dream and I want to stick with it. It sets my Icons perfectly.

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Post by tatewise » 01 Feb 2017 11:34

AS is unlikely to get updated quickly.
Changing the AS Short Title Template and the Box Expressions is relatively trivial and I would help.

You could continue working with both your current and the new style in parallel until satisfied it works.

If you wanted to convert the current style Source records to the new style, I could write a Plugin very quickly to move the Source Type to the Short Title, etc.
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Re: Source types

Post by londonscorpion » 03 Feb 2017 12:00

Mike, Sorry for the delay in getting back. Thanks for the offer of help, but I think I'll stick with what I have got - you worked so hard to get that right for me. It's no big deal to have to modify the source type. Just got to remember to do it! If things change, may I get back to you?

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Re: Source types

Post by tatewise » 03 Feb 2017 17:03

Yes, OK.
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