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by cwhermann
22 Apr 2021 11:25
Forum: Plugin Discussions
Topic: Import of RM7 Citations
Replies: 49
Views: 1597

Re: Import of RM7 Citations

I have decided the transition to FH7 is a much larger task/effort than I have the time to commit to at this point. After way too many hours spent in frustration and failing to successfully create even simple plugins, (or simple queries for that matter), and coming to grips with the fact that this wa...
by cwhermann
19 Apr 2021 16:54
Forum: Plugin Discussions
Topic: Import of RM7 Citations
Replies: 49
Views: 1597

Re: Import of RM7 Citations

Agree - the main thing I have learned through this transition, is that the lumping-splitting decision is driven as much, if not more, on the database file structure than it is on any desired methodology and that I will need to employ a much higher level of splitting going forward. I have been playin...
by cwhermann
18 Apr 2021 20:21
Forum: Plugin Discussions
Topic: Import of RM7 Citations
Replies: 49
Views: 1597

Re: Import of RM7 Citations

Potential bigger problem - I was going through each of my RM Source Records to get a feel of how many FH Source Records would be needed based on the lumping limitation of the FH file structure (as if I was starting from scratch in FH and forgetting about the whole digital image format issue for the ...
by cwhermann
18 Apr 2021 13:13
Forum: Plugin Discussions
Topic: Import of RM7 Citations
Replies: 49
Views: 1597

Re: Import of RM7 Citations

The issue with the importation of the Source record for EE style citations of online digital images led me to review my RM Master Source list to see if there were other instances of citation level metafields in the Bibliography formats. Short answer is yes. See my post in FH7 : Using Evidence Explai...
by cwhermann
18 Apr 2021 11:56
Forum: General Usage
Topic: FH7 : Using Evidence Explained Style
Replies: 23
Views: 957

Re: FH7 : Using Evidence Explained Style

I was also struggling with the lumping/splitting differences between RM and FH and the ability to use Evidence Explained Style. Fortunately (or unfortunately) I picked an a layered citation for an online image record to compare the differences between RM and FH. Other issues with importing and the t...
by cwhermann
17 Apr 2021 00:10
Forum: Plugin Discussions
Topic: Import of RM7 Citations
Replies: 49
Views: 1597

Re: Import of RM7 Citations

Poor choice of words
Hoping as in "they will (or are able) to provide flexibility in response to ticket",
not Hoping as in "wishing something magic happens"
by cwhermann
16 Apr 2021 22:53
Forum: General Usage
Topic: Bibliography Citation-specific Metafields
Replies: 44
Views: 780

Re: Bibliography Citation-specific Metafields

Although I have spent some time messing with data entry to get a feel for the user interface, most of my time in the past month has been focused on issues regarding the transfer from RM. So I decided to look at how I might approach source/citations going forward. Per the KB, the Advanced collection ...
by cwhermann
16 Apr 2021 17:53
Forum: General Usage
Topic: Bibliography Citation-specific Metafields
Replies: 44
Views: 780

Re: Bibliography Citation-specific Metafields

Great discussion and it has certainly expanded way beyond my "issue" with specific templates dealing with a specific type of record - online images of local jurisdictional records. Below is an image from an EE quick check model for an online image with the website and year in the bibliography. EE pa...
by cwhermann
16 Apr 2021 03:57
Forum: Plugin Discussions
Topic: Import of RM7 Citations
Replies: 49
Views: 1597

Re: Import of RM7 Citations

The plug-in needs to bring all fields over. I can’t think of any citation level meta fields that would not be needed for the Footnotes. The issue in my case is my decision to follow EE methodology, see import of RM7 Citations (19266) and only involves the templates for citing digital images. This ma...
by cwhermann
16 Apr 2021 01:15
Forum: General Usage
Topic: Bibliography Citation-specific Metafields
Replies: 44
Views: 780

Re: Bibliography Citation-specific Metafields

cwhermann wrote: ↑15 Apr 2021 10:57 ... now I have to figure out how I want to handle the issue that Citation-specific Fields are not allowed in the FH Bibliography Format. One option is to abandon Evidence Explained methodology. Another would be to add another field to Source Level. ... I should h...
by cwhermann
15 Apr 2021 14:57
Forum: Plugin Discussions
Topic: Import of RM7 Citations
Replies: 49
Views: 1597

Re: Import of RM7 Citations

That’s great, now I have to figure out how I want to handle the issue that Citation-specific Fields are not allowed in the FH Bibliography Format. One option is to abandon Evidence Explained methodology. Another would be to add another field to Source Level. Either one will require a rework of the t...
by cwhermann
15 Apr 2021 11:42
Forum: Plugin Discussions
Topic: Import of RM7 Citations
Replies: 49
Views: 1597

Re: Import of RM7 Citations

by tatewise » 14 Apr 2021 15:11
Sometimes the value is a copy of the GEDCOM value, but for such as FOOTNOTE and BIBLIO the [brackets] must be {changed}.

Does this mean the plugin would need to change the [ ] to { } or I would need to do this manually after the FH template was created?
by cwhermann
14 Apr 2021 19:42
Forum: Plugin Discussions
Topic: Import of RM7 Citations
Replies: 49
Views: 1597

Re: Import of RM7 Citations

I do not see any of this portion of the GEDCOM in the UDF file. Does FH7 just ignore?
by cwhermann
14 Apr 2021 17:38
Forum: Plugin Discussions
Topic: Import of RM7 Citations
Replies: 49
Views: 1597

Re: Import of RM7 Citations

Here is image of 0 _STMPLT for the template used in for the Source/Citations in my previous images so there is consistency across the images. In RM there are no default Footnote, Short Footnote, and Bibliography templates - they are blank unless the users builds/creates them. Mark's GEDCOM file woul...
by cwhermann
14 Apr 2021 15:33
Forum: Plugin Discussions
Topic: Import of RM7 Citations
Replies: 49
Views: 1597

Re: Import of RM7 Citations

Mike wrote: It would be useful to know the RM source and citation template field codes so we could automatically create a matching set of codes in the FH Source Template Format fields. However, those RM source and citation template field codes are omitted from the TITL, _SUBQ & BIBL fields. So the p...
by cwhermann
12 Apr 2021 14:56
Forum: Plugin Discussions
Topic: Import of RM7 Citations
Replies: 49
Views: 1597

Re: Import of RM7 Citations

Now that I have mastered Lua ;) , I'll dig into the API, HIPO, and fhUTILS - and we are not even half way through the alphabet yet!!! For someone completely new to LUA, I found the link Mervyn provided, https://www.tutorialspoint.com/lua/index.htm very helpful and recommend anyone just starting with...
by cwhermann
12 Apr 2021 13:26
Forum: Plugin Discussions
Topic: Import of RM7 Citations
Replies: 49
Views: 1597

Re: Import of RM7 Citations

Mike Wrote: There are aspects that are unclear to me involving the Citation Where Within Source PAGE, and Source record TITL, ABBR, _SUBQ & _BIBL fields and how the FH Source Template Title, Footnote, Short Footnote & Bibliography Formats are derived. Here is what I found with my custom template cit...
by cwhermann
12 Apr 2021 04:04
Forum: General Usage
Topic: Freeform citation in V7
Replies: 66
Views: 2618

Re: Freeform citation in V7

What shows up in the Footnote and Short Footnote of the FH citation entry window is the RM Footnote formatted text (which is imported from TITL line in the RM GEDCOM to the FH Title field) and the text from FH Where Within field (see below) The Bibliography is duplication of Footnote and Short Footn...
by cwhermann
11 Apr 2021 23:46
Forum: Plugin Discussions
Topic: Import of RM7 Citations
Replies: 49
Views: 1597

Re: Import of RM7 Citations

Da - A light bulb moment !!!
The whole goal here is not to "re-import" portions of the GEDCOM file differently, its to "re-arrange" the information already imported by FH7. Hence the reason for trying to understand what got imported and where.
Thanks
by cwhermann
11 Apr 2021 23:09
Forum: General Usage
Topic: Freeform citation in V7
Replies: 66
Views: 2618

Re: Freeform citation in V7

Here a portion of the Ged file for the source shown in my previous post. Not sure if this helps, (or complicates things), but it contains additional info. ABBR = the title of the the Source in RM (this is imported to the Short title field in FH7) TITL = the text string portion of the Footnote, less ...
by cwhermann
11 Apr 2021 22:31
Forum: Plugin Discussions
Topic: Import of RM7 Citations
Replies: 49
Views: 1597

Re: Import of RM7 Citations

Trying to lay out a game plan on how to attack this having reviewed the Lua programing materials. Given that many of my citations are Type 2 or lumped - this will involve bringing in the Source and then each of the citations for an event tied to that source. Looking at the RM Gedcom, each source is ...
by cwhermann
11 Apr 2021 18:38
Forum: General Usage
Topic: Freeform citation in V7
Replies: 66
Views: 2618

Re: Freeform citation in V7

Here us the citation input screen I created to match the RM created citation (and what I was hoping I would be able to create with the Plugin. Although this is probably more related to the Import of RM7 Citations (19266) forum - at some point, I would want all the RM citations "converted" to an equi...
by cwhermann
11 Apr 2021 18:18
Forum: General Usage
Topic: Freeform citation in V7
Replies: 66
Views: 2618

Re: Freeform citation in V7

Apologies -posted wrong image in the FH7 post. I posted the image of what the current import looks like in FH7.
by cwhermann
11 Apr 2021 18:15
Forum: General Usage
Topic: Freeform citation in V7
Replies: 66
Views: 2618

Re: Freeform citation in V7

Could only get 3 images in the post so the images of the RM generated template are in previous post. Here are the images of the "equivalent" in FH7.
by cwhermann
11 Apr 2021 18:13
Forum: General Usage
Topic: Freeform citation in V7
Replies: 66
Views: 2618

Re: Freeform citation in V7

Here is template and the associated data entry screen created in RM, I have also attached and "equivalent" template and data entry for the same citation in FH. One issue I discovered is in formatting the Footnote, Short-Footnote and Bibliography. It appears FH does not allow source level fields in t...