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by AntonyM
10 May 2024 08:42
Forum: Research
Topic: Birth certificate not found at GRO England
Replies: 24
Views: 678

Re: Birth certificate not found at GRO England

However, there is a statutory right, not often advertised by registration offices, for anyone to be given access and to inspect the locally held index (but not the registers themselves) on payment of t he search fee - I think is is £18 for 6hrs access. - How would I go about getting this agreed? So...
by AntonyM
10 May 2024 08:34
Forum: Research
Topic: Birth certificate not found at GRO England
Replies: 24
Views: 678

Re: Birth certificate not found at GRO England

If there is a statutory right and they are denying it you need to respond to them quoting the instrument giving that right (AntonyM can you provide details?) and if they still refuse tell them that you intend to seek a judicial review. The prospect of them being told by a judge what they have to do...
by AntonyM
09 May 2024 10:58
Forum: Research
Topic: Birth certificate not found at GRO England
Replies: 24
Views: 678

Re: Birth certificate not found at GRO England

BTW my grandfather wasn’t registered either, and he was born around 1890, in the East End of London, and my father had his birthdate adjusted, so nan wasn’t fined for late registration! :D How much did they adjust it by ? The fee (not a fine, and never has been) for a late registration in 1890 woul...
by AntonyM
09 May 2024 10:53
Forum: Research
Topic: Birth certificate not found at GRO England
Replies: 24
Views: 678

Re: Birth certificate not found at GRO England

Just found this statement "Civil registration of births, marriages and deaths in England and Wales started on 1 July 1837. Registration was not compulsory until 1875, following the Registration of Births and Deaths Act 1874, which made registration of a birth the responsibility of those presen...
by AntonyM
06 Mar 2024 12:02
Forum: Research
Topic: Handwritten GRO entry - Confusion
Replies: 4
Views: 649

Re: Handwritten GRO entry - Confusion

Forget the 2A connection to Surrey - a birth has to be registered in the district in which it occurred, so he should have been born in Hull. It could be a simple late registration, or it could also be a re-registration (which are quite common, and much more so than genuine late entries). Most appare...
by AntonyM
15 Nov 2023 11:04
Forum: Genealogy News
Topic: New GRO service
Replies: 11
Views: 2422

Re: New GRO service

The digital download option has now been extended to cover death registrations up to 1957...
by AntonyM
20 Sep 2023 09:15
Forum: Research
Topic: Death certificate research question
Replies: 21
Views: 2822

Re: Death certificate research question

For a death in 2003, you can only order the entry as a paper certificate (£11) from GRO or from the registration office in Kensington (who hold the original register). A digital image will not be available. The format will also be different from the example posted, having changed in 1969. In additio...
by AntonyM
17 Jul 2023 09:22
Forum: Research
Topic: Birth certificate not found at GRO England
Replies: 20
Views: 6141

Re: Birth certificate not found at GRO England

There are certainly some issues with the GRO on-line index, but then there are many problems with the old printed indexes too. The main confusion seems to stem from an expectation that the on-line index and the printed indexes (as seen on FreeBMD, Ancestry, FMP etc) should be exactly the same and th...
by AntonyM
07 Jul 2023 08:54
Forum: Genealogy News
Topic: New GRO service
Replies: 11
Views: 2422

Re: New GRO service

As one of the original trial group, I've been using the digital image system since the first restricted testing - I think it was almost 2 years ago that we had the first meeting with GRO. It works really well, but as noted the test data is limited as far as deaths is concerned, hopefully that may ch...
by AntonyM
03 Feb 2023 11:48
Forum: Research
Topic: Duplicate old and new Marriage Registers
Replies: 8
Views: 1751

Re: Duplicate old and new Marriage Registers

Quite normal for churches and chapels to maintain their own registers, in addition to the civil one. Sometimes they are in an identical format, sometimes quite different (esp. RC ones)
by AntonyM
17 Mar 2022 13:40
Forum: General Usage
Topic: Expression guidance
Replies: 11
Views: 2076

Re: Expression guidance

And don't forget to include "cordwainers"...

Out of interest, my grandfather was a boot & shoemaker, and although I never met him I'm told was mortally offended if anyone suggested that he was a cobbler ( who would only repair shoes, not make them).
by AntonyM
21 Feb 2022 10:21
Forum: Research
Topic: Death date records - which should I believe?
Replies: 9
Views: 3321

Re: Death date records - which should I believe?

bormley wrote: 04 Feb 2022 09:53 (Registrars are not completely infallible; in a recent family death certificate, 'Cerebro' is misspelled 'Cerebo'!)
That may be the way the doctor wrote it on the MCCD (Medical Certificate of Cause of Death) - registrars have to record exactly what the doctor writes (including spelling errors !)
by AntonyM
04 Jan 2022 11:37
Forum: Research
Topic: Grandad's multiple (old) certificates
Replies: 17
Views: 4175

Re: Grandad's multiple (old) certificates

"As per declaration" or "by declaration" has nothing to do with the timing of a registration, it just means that the information was given at a registration office away from the district in which the birth (or occasionally death) took place. The event can only be registered in th...
by AntonyM
22 Dec 2021 10:11
Forum: General Usage
Topic: New format marriage certifcates in England and Wales from May 2021
Replies: 9
Views: 2055

Re: New format marriage certifcates in England and Wales from May 2021

I think I remember reading at the time that this was the first electronic recording of marriages, and up until this year all records were kept on paper. Don’t expect to see them online anytime soon. The real practical change is the ending of the use of marriage registers - under the old system, the...
by AntonyM
22 Dec 2021 10:06
Forum: General Usage
Topic: New format marriage certifcates in England and Wales from May 2021
Replies: 9
Views: 2055

Re: New format marriage certifcates in England and Wales from May 2021

I just spotted the surnames of the mothers are shown by their married names, and not their maiden names. GRO missed a great opportunity there to help genealogists. One of the rules of registration (in E/W) is that a person's name should always be recorded as the name "they use or are known by&...
by AntonyM
29 Jul 2021 08:34
Forum: Ancestral Sources
Topic: Birth Informants
Replies: 2
Views: 2209

Re: Birth Informants

Buchanquine wrote: 28 Jul 2021 19:42 ... usually when bairn was illegitimate, ...
If two names are in the informant column ( known as registration by joint informants), it always means the parents are not married, at least not to each other.
by AntonyM
08 Feb 2021 11:49
Forum: Research
Topic: GRO query
Replies: 16
Views: 6434

Re: GRO query

You have a normal case of a registration to unmarried parents, therefore the entry is indexed twice (under the surname of each parent). All such entries are indexed in the same way in the older printed indexes as seen on FreeBMD. In this case the mother is, or has been, married to someone else ( but...
by AntonyM
10 Jan 2021 14:08
Forum: Research
Topic: Registration district numbers
Replies: 17
Views: 7587

Re: Registration district numbers

Most districts now work like this ... The district has a superintendent registrar who has overall responsibility for registration - then below them are a number of registrars each having control of a set of registers. Each of those registrars will have a code - 1A, 1C, 1D 1Z etc. The "reg"...